League File | Standings | Schedule | League Leaders | Free Agents | Coaches | CSLO | D-League Standings | D-League Leaders | Player Potential Database

Irving On The Move?

Write updates about your team or the league here.
Post Reply
User avatar
Rizzo
Gone But Not Forgotten
Posts: 7149
Joined: Fri Jul 11, 2014 2:01 am

Irving On The Move?

Post by Rizzo »

Image
Tell me if you have heard this before: the Cleveland Cavaliers are shopping Kyrie Irving.

This isn’t the first time that the front office has made him available but it could be the last. Sources in Cleveland report that there are “serious discussions with multiple teams” on a deal that will send the 25-year old All-CSL guard to another team in order to find greener pastures. The Cavaliers are looking at the league, and their division specifically, and seeing that the roster as currently constructed, cannot contend now or the near future. Instead of letting Irving play out his contract, they are thinking to move him now and hit the restart button on this roster.
Kyrie Irving has been nothing but a first-class basketball player and, even more so, a first-class citizen for this franchise and the City of Cleveland. You never want to see talent a supreme talent leave your team, but it could be best for the team and the player. I want the people of Cleveland and the Cavalier fans across the nation to know that this isn’t a player asking for a trade, but a franchise facilitating a deal that would be best for both parties.
Irving has been one of the best players in the entire league for years now but he’s having statistically the best season of his career thus far. He’s averaging a career-high 33.6 points per game on 47.4 FG% and 40.4 3PT%, both also being career-high percentages. His steals and blocks are also up this season, flashes an .809 STP% and a career-low turnover average of 2.2. Any team that is lucky enough to land Irving will be adding arguably the best PG in the league.

With Cleveland looking to start over, they are coveting young, talented players that can grow over the next couple of seasons with their young core of George DePaula, Zhou Qi and Damien Inglis. Draft picks are always valuable currency and the Cavaliers will look to grab as many of those as possible in any deal.

We are looking at an end of an era in Cleveland, one that we didn’t think we would be witnessing. If the Zach Randolph mega deal wasn’t bad enough, its repercussions can still be felt with the backwards slide of this franchise so far that the ripples of change are still effecting this roster and an Irving deal would be the end of it.
Career Accolades:
- GM, Cleveland Cavaliers [2013-2018]
- GM, Brooklyn Nets [2018-2030, 2031-2032]
- GM, Dallas Mavericks [2035-Present]
- 0 CSL Championships
- 0 Eastern Conference Championships
- 0 Coach of the Year Awards
- 0 GM of the Year Awards

Rizzo's Hall of Fame Players:
- oCSL Marcus Smart
- SG P.J. Hairston [2015 CSL Draft, Pick 1.16]
- C DeAndre Ayton [2022 CSL Draft, Pick 1.3]
- PG Shai-Gilgeous Alexander [2025 CSL Draft, Pick 1.1]

User avatar
Dennis
CSL Champ 2028
Posts: 10362
Joined: Fri Jul 11, 2014 10:19 am
Location: Düsseldorf

Re: Irving On The Move?

Post by Dennis »

I would prefer to see you build around him.. send away De Paula, Qi and Inglis for ready now talent and make a deep playoff run...
Boston Celtics Hall of Fame
PG G. Dragic [7] - Jersey Retired <> 2013 - 2015
PG R. Westbrook [0] - Jersey Retired <> 2016 - 2019

Fox - Johnson - Bridges - Hlinason - Whiteside
CSL Champions Image 2028

User avatar
andrei
Chairman of the Board
Posts: 7767
Joined: Fri Jul 11, 2014 8:26 am
Location: Gorey, Ireland

Re: Irving On The Move?

Post by andrei »

Interesting. I like him a lot... a lot...
StarCraft: Brood War

Jestor
Chairman of the Board
Posts: 5902
Joined: Fri Jul 11, 2014 5:55 am

Re: Irving On The Move?

Post by Jestor »

Dennis wrote:I would prefer to see you build around him.. send away De Paula, Qi and Inglis for ready now talent and make a deep playoff run...
This. If I had Kyrie, he'd hit the Don't Bother Asking section right quick. He's 25 and one of the few genuinely elite two way players in the game.

User avatar
WillyJakkz
Chairman of the Board
Posts: 6772
Joined: Fri Jul 11, 2014 6:50 am

Re: Irving On The Move?

Post by WillyJakkz »

If I were CLE I would've jumped on Jimmy Butler Biyombo for DePaula Udoh filler 1st if they haven't already as I don't see Irving being traded.

Kyrie Butler Harkless Stokes Biyombo not bad at all.

That said if Kyrie does get traded (for years now lol) I will be shocked.

ORLANDO
MAGIC:
PG J Giddey | SG Christian Braun | Mikal Bridges |
PF Victor Wembanyama | C Alex Sarr

User avatar
Mattybriand
CEO
Posts: 2518
Joined: Sun Jul 19, 2015 4:56 pm
Location: Tampa, FL

Re: Irving On The Move?

Post by Mattybriand »

WillyJakkz wrote:If I were CLE I would've jumped on Jimmy Butler Biyombo for DePaula Udoh filler 1st if they haven't already as I don't see Irving being traded.

Kyrie Butler Harkless Stokes Biyombo not bad at all.

That said if Kyrie does get traded (for years now lol) I will be shocked.

Image
George DePaula|Damien Inglis|Draymond Green|Karl Anthony-Towns|Nikola Jokić

Jestor
Chairman of the Board
Posts: 5902
Joined: Fri Jul 11, 2014 5:55 am

Re: Irving On The Move?

Post by Jestor »

WillyJakkz wrote:If I were CLE I would've jumped on Jimmy Butler Biyombo for DePaula Udoh filler 1st if they haven't already as I don't see Irving being traded.

Kyrie Butler Harkless Stokes Biyombo not bad at all.
Image

User avatar
WillyJakkz
Chairman of the Board
Posts: 6772
Joined: Fri Jul 11, 2014 6:50 am

Re: Irving On The Move?

Post by WillyJakkz »

That lineup better than current, also that lineup with current assets more valuable than Lakers or Pacers from my perspective.

Not to mention but not sure it's realized but CLE is 1 win back from BK which was highly recognized by most GM's as a well put together team.

Clips need a PG Cavs want to win.

ORLANDO
MAGIC:
PG J Giddey | SG Christian Braun | Mikal Bridges |
PF Victor Wembanyama | C Alex Sarr

Jestor
Chairman of the Board
Posts: 5902
Joined: Fri Jul 11, 2014 5:55 am

Re: Irving On The Move?

Post by Jestor »

Hi, I'm Jimmy Butler. I have a 47 IQ and shot 8% in 4 starts in the playoffs. It also does absolutely nothing to address the fact that the Cavs need a secondary scorer - they have neither the defense nor the 3 point shooting to make it work like the Magic did last year in a similar situation. While Butler addresses the defensive issue, he does nothing at all offensively to fix the problem.

DePaula carries far higher value than that by himself, and you want the Cavs to throw a 1st on top of that? Hell.no. Furthermore, the only thing Biyombo offers over Stokes is size and shotblocking, neither of which matter when the perimeter starters are 80.9/92.2 DSR (We'll pretend Edwin doesn't exist, and I already told Rizzo literally anybody else they could put at SG would be an improvement over the most confusing free agency contract from last season).

User avatar
WillyJakkz
Chairman of the Board
Posts: 6772
Joined: Fri Jul 11, 2014 6:50 am

Re: Irving On The Move?

Post by WillyJakkz »

5-6 with DePaula as a starter 10-14 overall so that's not really telling as the schedule can dictate W's L's.

Butler 10.8pts 3rebs 1.7stls .450 in 21 games in Detroit's finals run last season.

Convenient memory is convenient.

Butler addresses defense on perimeter with Moe Harkless, Biyombo somewhat in the post.

Kyrie has been putting up huge numbers if you haven't noticed, what makes you think that dynamic changes with DePaula gone? Butler has 57 SCR 88 DEF compared to DePaula 53 SCR 64 DEF.

Yeah pick is overkill since Butler is expiring but Biyombo > Udoh late pick (Wolves).

That thinking perhaps is why LA Lakers are chasing their tail holding onto their precious picks much like Golem.
Image

ORLANDO
MAGIC:
PG J Giddey | SG Christian Braun | Mikal Bridges |
PF Victor Wembanyama | C Alex Sarr

User avatar
wms02a
CEO
Posts: 2537
Joined: Mon May 23, 2016 5:18 pm
Location: Arkasnas

Re: Irving On The Move?

Post by wms02a »

Makes less sense to move
Irving than it does KD. He is younger and you have a nice young core to build around hmm over the next 5 years.
San Antonio Spurs GM

2024: San Antonio Spurs - Southwest Division Champion, GM of the Year, Coach of the Year
2025: San Antonio Spurs - Western Conference Champions

Jestor
Chairman of the Board
Posts: 5902
Joined: Fri Jul 11, 2014 5:55 am

Re: Irving On The Move?

Post by Jestor »

DePaula is still growing into his potentials. And damn right I'm hanging on to my picks. If the right offer came along I'd trade one, but haven't gotten it.

User avatar
Marcos_Beck
CSL Champ 2019
Posts: 9101
Joined: Fri Jul 11, 2014 5:15 am
Location: Brazil

Re: Irving On The Move?

Post by Marcos_Beck »

wms02a wrote:Makes less sense to move
Irving than it does KD. He is younger and you have a nice young core to build around hmm over the next 5 years.
True. But, still, a very very good offer should be consider. But only trade top 15 players for potential top 15 players, that's how I play this trading game, at least.
18-19 Chicago Bulls: CSL Champions
#1 D.Rose #11 J.Holiday #21 J.Butler #42 A.Horford #13 J.Noah

29-30 Philadelphia 76ers: CSL Champions
#1 L.Ball #15 M.Beasley #23 B.Bowen #21 M.Wagner #51 K.Towns

Post Reply