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Lakers Gibsoned Out Of Amir

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Johnson Farmar Sent To Chi-Town For Gibson, Pistons 2019 1st
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Taj Gibson is in disbelief that he's leaving the Chicago Bulls

After initially appearing to plan to keep Amir Johnson to start the season, the Lakers made a stunning announcement today. Johnson and front office favorite point guard Jordan Farmar have been moved to the Chicago Bulls for Taj Gibson's expiring contract and the Detroit Pistons 2019 1st, a guaranteed late selection by all accounts. The move presumably strikes a blow to the Lakers' playoff hopes, given the downgrade from Johnson to Gibson, but will clinch the Purple and Gold as guaranteed UFA offers next summer, rather than be limited to the RFA max, as they would be following the re-signing of DeMar DeRozan.

Gibson, 31, has developed a reputation as a reasonably solid scorer, shooter, and defender, and offers better discipline and basketball intelligence than Johnson, though both players' production throughout their CSL career has been better than what scouts rate them. He steps in as the new starting power forward, as he's a better drive stopper, more ball secure, and a higher quality turnover producer than Robin Lopez, who will back up Walter Tavares at the center slot.

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George Hill high-fives the opportunity of guaranteed playing time

The move also signals that George Hill is locked in as the backup point guard, if not the outright starter, and the growing consensus from the Staples Center is that he'll be at the very least the Lakers' 6th man, occupying a combo guard role off the bench in order to maximize his production heading into his contract year. Better suited to run the dribble-drive offense the Purple and Gold used last offseason, he, along with T.J. McConnell will provide major perimeter defense upgrades over Farmar. Sources say it also becomes a certainty that Hill stays with the team the entire season, as his expiring is now necessary to attain UFA status.

"We didn't really want to make this trade initially," GM Jestor said. "We were excited to see what Amir could do, and of course, we love Jordan. But the more we looked at it, the more the move simply made sense. We didn't see any of the other offers out there giving us the financial value that this deal did, even those that were offering a better first. And after the Boston Celtics pulled their offer of the Nuggets 2018 1st, and the Raptors only offering a late first... well... we decided to go ahead and make this trade.

The timing is important here, too. Walter Tavares becomes an RFA the offseason after next, and with his playing skills and reputation around the league, he's going to get a max offer from someone - thus negating our financial flexibility. So we need to strike next summer, with what looks to be a strong UFA crop, and the potential for us to find a #1 scoring option he can take the reins of this team and elevate us to that next level. This move allows us to be one of those teams in play. As to if it weakens our current on-court product - if it does, it does so only very slightly. We're still anticipating we're likely to be in that 30-35 win category, with or without Amir. It's just that this trade gives us a shot at a better long-range future, and the capability of going after some of the CSL's top echelon talent. Unlike some of the mother teams, who are treading water or trending down, we're trending upwards, and also now have the freedom to aggressively pursue sign and trades for the right player."

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Do I like it? No. You pretty much gave up McDermott for #30 now. Good trade for Chicago. Their frontcourt looks even better now. However, I still cant understand why you didnt accept my offers over the years :P..
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Were there some offers in the table? Yes
Is this a good one for LA? Yes, too

I like the aggressiveness. Amir would never win you a ring.
You have two very decent pieces in Tavares and McConnell, along with a legit #2 option in DeRozan. Those are the starters and the untouchable guys IMO given their age / contract / talent level. Go after your #1 option on O, that's the main thing now, and use whatever assets needed.
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Didn't love it for you. I think you would have been better off to start the season and allow amir to increase value and trade him mid season than make a rash decision and trade him now.

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I like the pick and Taj but the overall result from the McDermott trade is #15 (Doug) for maybe a late teens early 20's pick is bad if he can't capitalize on the cap which in hindsight was preventable.

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Jaboo wrote:Didn't love it for you. I think you would have been better off to start the season and allow amir to increase value and trade him mid season than make a rash decision and trade him now.
This wasn't a rash decision. In fact, I rejected it like four times. You can ask Marcos. And if Amir gets hurt, then his trade value crashes because he's lost yet another prime year. It's a risk-reward analysis. To be honest, even in the offseason the only truly great offer I got for him was the Nuggets pick, which I would have taken over this one, but the timing simply wasn't right.

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WillyJakkz wrote:I like the pick and Taj but the overall result from the McDermott trade is #15 (Doug) for maybe a late teens early 20's pick is bad if he can't capitalize on the cap which in hindsight was preventable.
Yeah by telling you to get fucked with your Matthews offer. :D

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Jestor wrote:
Jaboo wrote:Didn't love it for you. I think you would have been better off to start the season and allow amir to increase value and trade him mid season than make a rash decision and trade him now.
This wasn't a rash decision. In fact, I rejected it like four times. You can ask Marcos. And if Amir gets hurt, then his trade value crashes because he's lost yet another prime year. It's a risk-reward analysis. To be honest, even in the offseason the only truly great offer I got for him was the Nuggets pick, which I would have taken over this one, but the timing simply wasn't right.
You still could have done better midseason. The same mistake happened when you traded Kobe for cheap and he later got sent away to portland in exchange for Batum. I think if you wouldnt change your "plan" more often than my girlfriend its opinion about what she should wear, you could be in a way better position already. Phoenix, Sacramento or Orlando are good examples.
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This was a decent move, strategically. You get rid of two two year deals for an expiring PF with comparable peripherals to the departing Johnson, with the added bonus of getting a first in return. You are always taking chances with trading for picks as, generally, it's hard to gauge its true value. Next year you get just about $9m back in cap, which could come in handy in a seemingly deep market, and down the road you get another first round pick, which are valuable in itself and for trade assets.
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