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Trade Block

Goal:
First option is to build a team to compete for a Championship during Blake Griffin's Prime years (next 3 and a half years)
He needs a second scoring option and/or a Defensive Wing (MKG type) 3pt shooting is a plus. I have young players and picks to offer

Assets:
Atlanta Hawks 1st round draft pick unprotected (#2 Currently)
San Antonio Spurs 1st round draft pick unprotected (#6 Currently)
Detroit Pistons 1st round draft pick Top 7 protected (#20 ish currently)
Milwaukee Bucks 2nd round draft pick (early 30s Currently)
Future Picks

Wesley Saunders (#6 overall pick 2 years ago former ROY) Poor man's Joe Johnson
Sim Bhullar (Best Block rating in CSL, Great offensive rebounder, shooting high % high draw foul rating)
Malik Pope (3&D, Needs some pref work )
Alec Brown (7'1 stretch big who can drain 3's has a couple of big player of the games even with Blake playing, High scr rating for bench
Jeremy Lamb (Shooter, I actually like him more then any other gm will)
Matsuez Pontika (Throw in)
PJ Hairston (Great 3PT SHOOTER
)
Goal:
Second Option is to scrap and rebuild, this one is easy almost everyone is available
Blake Griffin(Come strong or don't come at all)
Nikola Vucevic
Chris Paul
really anything besides the picks... the goal would be to acquire young talent and picks moving forward for the slow rebuild.
Down below is Blake Griffin's numbers as he is a legit MVP type player one of about 3/4 in the league

Blake Griffin
33.7 MPG (Kevin Durant:39.6 Paul George:37.0 Anthony Davis:34.1)
28.0 PPG (3rd in the CSL)Behind Paul George,Kevin Durant
12.2 RPG (1st in the CSL)
3.2 APG (3rd among PFs and Centers)
1.3 SPG (13th among PFs and Centers)
32.5 Efficiency (2nd in the CSL) Behind Kevin Durant
58.2 FG% (4th in the CSL)

34.5 PER (1st in the CSL) 2nd is Russell Westbrook at 32.7 then Durant at 32.5 then Anthony Davis is 4th at 32.0 then 5th is a big drop to Paul George at 28.7
PER strives to measure a player's per-minute performance, while adjusting for pace. A league-average PER is always 15.00, which permits comparisons of player performance across seasons.
PER takes into account accomplishments, such as field goals, free throws, 3-pointers, assists, rebounds, blocks and steals, and negative results, such as missed shots, turnovers and personal fouls. The formula adds positive stats and subtracts negative ones through a statistical point value system. The rating for each player is then adjusted to a per-minute basis so that, for example, substitutes can be compared with starters in playing time debates. It is also adjusted for the team's pace. In the end, one number sums up the players' statistical accomplishments for that season.

Hollinger has set up PER so that the league average, every season, is 15.00, which produces sort of a handy reference guide:

All-time great season
43+
Hands-down MVP
33-42
Strong MVP candidate
29.9-32.9
Long-shot MVP candidate
25-27.5
Definite All-Star
22.5-25
Borderline All-Star
20-22.5
Second offensive option
18-20
Third offensive option
16.5-18
Slightly above-average player
15-16.5
Rotation player
13-15
Non-rotation player
11-13
Fringe roster player
9-11
Player who won't stick in the league
0-8.7
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Yes call me crazy
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Bumping for the updates
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Mattybriand wrote:Yes call me crazy
You are crazy...
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wms02a wrote:
Mattybriand wrote:Yes call me crazy
You are crazy...
My plan didn't pan out now I want to try another

I love watching young players develop too
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Mattybriand wrote:
wms02a wrote:
Mattybriand wrote:Yes call me crazy
You are crazy...
My plan didn't pan out now I want to try another

I love watching young players develop too
Come strong w an offer then!
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wms02a wrote: Come strong w an offer then!


Exactly, Everyone look above
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Re: 2 Choices Rebuild or Compete.. Help me choose

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Mattybriand wrote:Here are your two options.... Help me choose please reach out via PM or FB msg if you are interested

Option 1

Rebuild and look toward the Future

Assets to move
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Please do not come to be with Lowballs, Blake is 29 and is a current MVP cannidate, has led a team to a finals victory... perfect win now piece... yes I get that he's 29 that means 2 and a half years before any regression... Keep in mind this is Lebron James's 2nd year of TC regression... I AM LOOKING FOR A YOUNGER WIN LATER TYPE PLAYER THAT I CAN FIT NEXT TO OTHER YOUNG GUYS (ATL pick,SAS pick, DET pick
Blake Griffin
34.0 MPG
27.4 PPG (4th in the CSL)
12.5 RPG (1st in the CSL)
3.2 APG (3rd among PFs and Centers)
1.3 SPG (8th among PFs and Centers)
32.2 Efficiency (2nd in the CSL)
56 FG% (7th in the CSL)
33.1 PER (1st in the CSL)


Chris Paul
68 handles
83 passing
80 Defense
77 steals
98.6 % drive stop rate


Nikola Vucevic
84 OREB
79 DREB
64 SCR
Currently working on fixing his FG% should take another full season


JJ Redick
CANNOT PLAY BIG MINUTES
53% 3pt (1st in the CSL)


Isaiah Thomas

Option 2


Compete to win a championship in the next 2 and a half years

Assets to move

Atlanta Hawks 1st round draft pick Unprotected (Currently 2nd best odds at the #1 pick)
San Antonio Spurs 1st round draft pick unprotected (Currently #9 pick)
Detroit Pistons 1st round draft pick top 5 protected (currently #18th pick)

Wesley Saunders (Former Rookie of the Year, 22 y/o)

Keifer Sykes ( 22 y/o 69 scr 65 stl 13.2 ppg off the bench)

Sim Bhullar (23 y/o 87 oreb 85 blk 84 Drfoul)

Jeremy Lamb (21 y/o)

PJ Hairston (24 y/o)

Alec Brown (25 y/o 7'1 64 scr)

Malik Pope (20 y/o 77 Def)
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Re: 2 Choices Rebuild or Compete.. Help me choose

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Give me Blake Griffin.

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You have blake... Compete.. and the east is a lot easier than the west. You will get more value for CP3 on the court vs trading him
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You should compete. Don't you want to solidify Blake Griffin as the best CSL player in history?

Hear me out.. he won a title with the Nuggets as the man. Now he can help win a title for the Pacers as the man. He would go down in CSL history as the goat

Just trade the picks for a great piece to fit next to Blake and win it all.

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Agree with 8time. Griffin is more or less the same as Davis and Harden - he can win games all by himself man. Nuggets had nobody when they won the title, it was all Blake. So you just experiment with rotations and lineups making sure you win enough games to get in. Once you're in the payoffs, Blake does not care if he has home court or not.
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andrei wrote:Agree with 8time. Griffin is more or less the same as Davis and Harden - he can win games all by himself man. Nuggets had nobody when they won the title, it was all Blake. So you just experiment with rotations and lineups making sure you win enough games to get in. Once you're in the payoffs, Blake does not care if he has home court or not.
Nuggets had a lot of defense, but those nuggets also would not win it all today either
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Re: 2 Choices Rebuild or Compete.. Help me choose

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Rebuild around Blake... Or trade Blake to me and rebuild around Chris Bosh

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