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Every year there is a flurry of trades being made between the All-Star game and the trade deadline with GMs looking to do two things: build up their team to compete for the playoffs or to sell off assets in order to better their position in the future. In 2015, we have more of the same. We are going to take a look at every deal that was made and break down potential winners and losers of each.
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Dallas Mavericks trade Monta Ellis to Detroit in exchange for Danny Granger, Will Bynum, 2016 ORL 2nd, and 2017 DET 1st
Myles and the Mavericks have been trying to unload some of their talent for some time now. Just before the All-Star game in Chicago, Dallas shipped out two excellent role players in Brandan Wright and Wayne Ellington to Oklahoma City in exchange for explosive combo guard Reggie Jackson and others. With Jackson looking to be the future of Dallas basketball, Ellis was expendable. The electric scoring guard strengthens the Pistons’ even more so while allowing the Mavericks to gain a couple draft picks. Although they will have to pay Granger another $5.5m next season, Bynum expires. The Mavericks aren’t in position to contend right now anyways so the salary isn’t that big of a hit.

To pick a loser in this trade is almost impossible. We know Myles would have loved to have gotten much more in return for Ellis, but the fact he holds a player option next season with the chance of opting out probably hindered his value just a bit. Still, the East-leading Pistons got stronger while the Mavericks gained a couple picks instead of gambling on losing Ellis for nothing. Dallas still has a chance to re-sign Ellis in the offseason if he were to decline his player option, so Dallas could be a big winner in this one.
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Orlando Magic trades Jonas Valanciunas to the Milwaukee Bucks for Giannia Antetokounmpo
It’s very rare to see straight up one-for-one deals but this is what we have here. The Magic moved on from their young, budding big man in Valanciunas to gamble on the raw ability of the Greek Freak, Antetokounmpo. With Orlando looking to experiment with Giannis at the point guard position, this could turn out to be a hit or a disaster real quick. As for Valanciunas, he is still on his rookie contract for one more season and then will become a restricted free agent. While the Magic feared he is going to garner a max offer from at least one team, they weren’t willing to pay that price tag instead relying on Greg Oden to man the middle. With both teams in fantastic position regarding the salary cap, Valanciunas’ extension shouldn’t have held as much weight as it did.

I think the Bucks win out in this deal as acquiring a young center that can really play is never an easy thing to do while Giannis may never reach the potentials he has. Still, we will watch with excitement to see how the Magic’s experiment plays out.
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Oklahoma City Thunder trade Kevin Love, Roy Hibbert and Aaron Gray to the Brooklyn Nets for DeAndre Jordan, Rajon Rondo, Jeff Green and Andray Blatche
The Thunder has officially moved all of their proverbial chips in the middle as they are going for it all! Dealing away two quality big men in Love and Hibbert, who are under contract for next year, for Rondo and Jordan that are staring free agency in the face at the end of the season is a risky proposition. Add on that Jeff Green will still eat up $9.2m of their cap next year and the Thunder are almost definitely going to lose two big names off of their roster come next year.

As for the Nets, they go from a long rebuild to adding two core pieces. With Love’s ability to stretch the defense and Hibbert going to work in the paint, they seem like a perfect fit on the court together. Fighting the cap will slow the Nets’ ability to continue to add pieces around their new nucleus but Brooklyn will be a factor much sooner than we had anticipated.

If the Thunder win the title this year, this trade has to be considered a win for them because winning a title is always the ultimate goal. If they don’t win it all and end up losing Rondo, Jordan or both in free agency, this could be a deal that comes back to haunt them for quite some time.
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Atlanta Hawks trade Arron Afflalo, Jerrdy Bayless, 2015 LAC 2nd and 2016 NOP 2nd to the Dallas Mavericks for Jose Calderon.
The Hawks, who are all but locked in to the playoffs in the tough Eastern Conference, just went on tilt with this one. After seeing Detroit acquire Monta Ellis, the Atlanta GM did say that there’s no use in contending now with the Pistons so strong.

Dealing an ultra-efficient guard in Afflalo to acquire a point guard in Calderon seems like a loss to me. Calderon is not as good as Jeff Teague in any way but we know the Hawks were trying desperately to move him before the deadline as well. Calderon’s lack of ability on the defensive end could heavily outweigh any offensive production he gives the Hawks.

As for the Mavericks they found a backcourt mate for Deron Williams while developing Reggie Jackson as a 6th man off of the bench. That Williams contract might be something Myles looks to move in the offseason to allow Jackson free reign at the point. On top of getting the best player in the deal, they picked up two (albeit, late) 2nd round picks. This was a great move for the Mavericks.

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Four trades. That was our “flurry” of deals this year. Usually we would see at least twice as many trades before the deadline. Hopefully we can make some more noise once the offseason starts and draft picks start changing hands. For now, teams are set with their roster besides hitting the scrap heap known as free agency.
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Reading all those trades it feels even worse that I couldnt finish one. Atlanta's trade doesnt make sense for them, Calderon wont help them. Aaron was the better fit next to Jeff. OKC will be in real trouble and I could see one of the big5 will leave this summer. But its more likely they will trade Vasquez and Green together with a future pick to a team with cap.
Ellis was a huge steal for Detroit. Im shocked there wasnt something better on the table. I may sound like a broken record, but I still would have loved to see Cleveland or Phoenix trade for Monta. Though I might be biased because I hate seeing Detroit getting stronger.

Edit: And yeah, JV is a steal. He will develope into a Lopez like player. Very rare two way talent.
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Nice read rizzo. We may still have a long rebuild I've just gained an asset that may have more value.
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Valanciunas to Milwaukee by far my favorite trade but really like Ellis to Detroit alot as well.

And :lol: @ Hawks trying to finagle lotto picks from teams for Afflalo then trading him and a pick for Calderón...

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Granger has a team option for next season which we will be declining.

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Dennis wrote:I may sound like a broken record, but I still would have loved to see Cleveland or Phoenix trade for Monta. Though I might be biased because I hate seeing Detroit getting stronger.
I appreciate the advice, but as I've mentioned before, I'm not going to throw one of my draft picks away for a 1-year rental player. I'm not going to win a championship this season, and I wouldn't have the bird rights to him either. He'll be an unrestricted free agent with 10+ years in the league. Who knows what kind of offers he'll get thrown his way. I'll take my chances in FA.

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Good read!

Yeah, it will be a headache come off season. If I did not do the trade, I'll also end up losing Hibbert or prolly Vucevic in the off Season. It can be a nice try thou..

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Good read my man, thought about the same article but never materialized, and yours is very nice.
Ellis to Detroit, biggest steal. That's by far.
Then JVal to MKE. Let's see how Giannis will work as PG

ATL adding Calderon, that may hurt them more than everything else. I loved their team with Teague leading the way, so sad a 20/9/5 guy will have to come off the bench. Nice for Myles though, if Afflalo picks up his option he'll be a nice backcourt duo to Reggie Jackson.

As for OKC - BRO, I like it for both. I'm very afraid of OKC right now, but luckily they're in the West.
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I like to see the critical comments here, some believe it makes no sense. but they do not have enough information, we'll see what happens. They always criticize my trades and the time give me the true. I always had medium teams and have always come minimum conference semifinals. they only see the obvious. who is the leader in nearly every statistical computer?

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dapralbe wrote:I like to see the critical comments here, some believe it makes no sense. but they do not have enough information, we'll see what happens. They always criticize my trades and the time give me the true. I always had medium teams and have always come minimum conference semifinals. they only see the obvious. who is the leader in nearly every statistical computer?
I commented on your trade value-wise for what you were trying to get for Afflalo, especially from me and our talks vs what his value was for who you traded him for, not the player themselves.

Your offer to me vs what he was traded for :)

GM-wise you definitely know what you're doing but you can't get upset, they're commenting on your quote of saying you may as well surrender the season to Detroit after their trade.

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Some solid trades coming in the deadline, but not as much as I would have thought.

Glad we added someone like Ellis for this run and if he picks up his PO, then I'll be really happy about the deal, but the chance to add him for a championship run was too much to pass up. Smart move by Myles to get what he can for a guy who might not be on the team next year.

The OKC/Brooklyn move makes sense for both teams even if I think OKC is going to have to make some tough decisions in the off-season.

The Milwaukee/Orlando trade is still up for debate since both deal with young players so we don't have a full picture of who won/lost this trade until a couple years from now.

And I agree that I think Calderon's defense is going to hurt the Hawks more than help them, even if he is efficient and great distributor. The asking price for Afflalo was all over the place the last week, but if Atlanta can make it to the Conference Semi's again then they will prove themselves to be right again.
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WillyJakkz wrote:
dapralbe wrote:I like to see the critical comments here, some believe it makes no sense. but they do not have enough information, we'll see what happens. They always criticize my trades and the time give me the true. I always had medium teams and have always come minimum conference semifinals. they only see the obvious. who is the leader in nearly every statistical computer?
I commented on your trade value-wise for what you were trying to get for Afflalo, especially from me and our talks vs what his value was for who you traded him for, not the player themselves.

Your offer to me vs what he was traded for :)

GM-wise you definitely know what you're doing but you can't get upset, they're commenting on your quote of saying you may as well surrender the season to Detroit after their trade.

Willy with you no problem:) you always have a good actitude.

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