How are they doing?

[bt]

I just read 8-10 from the standings, my mistake.

Still agree with the others though. Not in the same category as Wall or Rose but what do I know. I've won 4 games, lol.

[Dennis]

And its a good thing that everybody has his own mind. Just asked Jake why, because he made a point without giving any reasons. Looking at the pure stats game says something different as all three are playing on the same level. Also Im not saying he's on their level. We/I just dont know yet if dragic is overachieving or Wall/Rose underachivieng.

[GreenBear]

Dragic is definitely playing better than I thought he would. I knew he would do well, but not MVP discussion worthy haha. I really think he's benefitting greatly by playing alongside Rondo. I'm glad to see Dragic performing so well.

I think it's a little too early to tell who won this trade though. Boston definitely got a much better player in the short-term, for sure. But I was playing the long-game, and 3-5 seasons from now might tell a different story (or not, we shall see). Even with Dragic, the Suns were never going to compete for a title in the short-term in the stacked West. Keeping him would probably just put the Suns closer to 0.500 (and hurting our picks the next few seasons).

[bt]

Exactly Dennis. Some are stats guys, some are ratings guys. I'm a ratings guy and I don't know if it's wrong but even if Dragic had much better stats, if Rose or Wall still had better ratings, I'd much prefer them. That's just an example but some guys also go purely by stats and if they produce, who cares what ratings they have.

[Dennis]

A reason Im absolutely fine with! Was just waiting for an explanation like that. Now Im happy .
(Yeah Im the stats guy, haha )

[bt]

Stats versus ratings.... see Faverani. It's why it blew my mind when the game put Aaron Gray in as a starter and he had 21 points and 11 rebounds. With ratings of 36 for scoring and 45 and 46 for rebounding. It confused the shit out of me, lol.

[Dennis]

Haha. Aaron might be the new shaq. You never know. For faverani. The problem is, his most Important "Ratings" are only visible looking at the stats. He's massive (6'11, 260) and is a great inside scorer (70% IS).
But yeah, like someone cant always look at ratings its the same for stats.

[orangeparka]

Eh I'd argue Dragic is on that level right. His production rivals any guard in the league at the moment, and overall he's playing better than both Rose and Wall. CHI is obviously playing great, but for like WAS it's not like they're playing THAT much better.

What makes Rose or Wall established guys and not Dragic? This is a new sim and a new file after all. I don't see why we give only Rose and Wall the benefit of the doubt and Dragic is the only one that has to "prove himself".

At this point every player in the league should have to prove himself.

[lakeshowak7]

Dragic is surely playing at an all star level right now. I see no reason why he can't be put into the same group as Wall and Rose from a production standpoint. There's no question that if Wall reaches his full potential, that it is a level I am not sure Dragic can reach.

[Jake0890]

Honestlynot sure why we are even comparing them. Wall and Rose both play PG full time while Dragic plays the 2 and gets to have the ball dished to him by one of the best passing PGs in Rondo. Dragic's stats would look a whole lot different if he played PG.

Dragic probably should have been compared to other SGs, not Rose and Wall.

[Dennis]

Dragic is our combo guard. 16 minutes point, 16 shooting guard.
Howsoever. Time to turn the computer off at work. Nice Weekend everybody!

[dapralbe]

there are a few hidden ratings that dannimportancia to height and weight, so comonvelocidad lateral displacement etc, what happens is we do not see, but are placed with a logic game. in talent Dragic no doubt, that system does not have dennis, but you is clear I would put him on defensive rebound to get the high pace counter also

[WillyJakkz]

Expected something completely different when I saw the title instead of a Dragic Faveranni thread.

If Dragic is playing only 16mins at PG then only his stats from those 16mins should be translated (PER36) to compare his PG production vs Rose and Wall cause as it stands Rondo is the C's PG, starting PG I may add which means Dragic's PG production is coming from his mins vs other teams backup PG mainly.

Rajon Rondo irl would be resenting this article bigtime, straight slap in the face completely devaluing what he has brought to the team and hyping up Dragic as the PG that's been making all of this possible.

Fav is playing very well for you though, nice bigman.

[Dennis]

Expected something completely different when I saw the title instead of a Dragic Faveranni thread.

Haha, yeah. Maybe not the most accurate headline. Will start spamming league articles about other teams performance after next month