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Hawks season pre- and review

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Another rebuilding season in the books and I already had a hard time to remember what happened :)
But a quick look back to and old file helped.

We had a very slow start into the season, going 1-8. I was on a trip only to able to check the html and was like “all right, they will et all fired”. Some strat changes helped us to climb out of this hole though. We got a nice run to catch up with the team occupying the playoff spots and played a very solid season, the best since we started our rebuild.

Unfortunately Mr. Glass Goloman went down with a season ending injury and we had to decide, if we just want to scratch this season of or try to trade for some front court help. In the end we dealt young Austin Reaves for veteran center Metu. Still like that move, Metu played strong playoffs for us and after resigning him to a reasonable contract, we hope he can help the team for the next 2-3 seasons.

We made it into the playoffs without having to play the play-ins this year, small progress there. In round 1 we met the Doncic led Knicks and after some fight we had to surrender to the better team at that point. Overall, I was happy with the outcome of the season which showed another small step forward.

Entering the offseason, our top priority was to resign Isaac Okoro and Chimezie Metu. Both could be done quickly and without much drama. We also resigned Vaiciunas and Walker to some short-term deals and added Marcus Howard, another solid play maker who knows how to hit an outside shot.

A little bit more interesting were our trade and draft activity. We were and still are looking for the future starting PG and C of the current roster. Okoro did a good job playing the point for us last season, but I feel there is potential for an upgrade.
We were able to hammer out a deal with Washington to send Jose Alvarado to the Hawks in exchange for the improving prospect Ashton Hagans and established center Moses Brown, along with pick 33, which we acquired before in a trade with New Orleans. Our hope is, that Alvarado can still steadily lead the offense, like Okoro did last year, but also put some more pressure on opposing guards and help our not so shiny defense.

With pick 23 we added also defensive specialist Lindy Waters III during the draft. Another try to improve our team defense going forward.

More trade talks, mostly centered around young and developing big men, stalled for now and we have the roster at hand, which will very likely play together til day 30, where we will re-evaluate again what we got so far.

Goal for this season is again, to improve a little more. Hopefully be in play for home court this time.
Roster regarding, we will be able to free up cap next summer, to offer someone the maximum contract in free agency. Could be fun to be able to throw some money around. :)

Obviously there is also always the chance we decide for a trade and use this cap, our 35 first and our young player to acquire a player we feel can be part of the core of Reggie Perry, Naji Marshall and Keegan Murray. We will certainly keep our eyes open for that possibility.
A lot of ideas and possible ways forward, but now its time to start the season and see where we really stand. The opener will be at home against the team with the best West record last season, the Dallas Mavericks. Zion and co will be a tough test and right after that we will have to play a bunch of games on the road. Can’t wait to get it started and hope we can hang with the East top teams.

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I dunno if you can still call it a rebuild if you made the playoffs last season. But I also dunno if you have enough talent to be a true contender.

This team is more of the sum of it's parts than any individual star making his mark. Might end up in league purgatory, with enough talent to be a competitive team but not enough talent to be a true contender.
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Respectfully, I completely disagree with Marcus's take. This team has legit budding star power with Marshall, Murray and Perry. The Hawks have some things to work out (don't we all?), but I think this team is going to be scary in the very near future as their cornerstones develop and Andre continues to round out the roster around them. He already has some really nice role players in Metu, Alvarado, and Okoro (among others).

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I totally understand both views and it is probably somewhere in the middle :-)

We didn't get lucky with our top selections in the draft, which results in the lack of an obvious star player. We got some more luck later in the draft, which netted us Perry, Marshall and Murray. I hop Doug is right and they turn out to be difference maker. Our approach is definetely more about team play than depending on a star player for now.

There is high danger that we just level out at the middle of the pack, but Alex just showed that there may be always the chance to cash in some assets and go all in on an aging star later on. Not without risk either, but lot of options.

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You guys improved and should be a top 5 Eastern Conference team. Anything else is a disappointment imo.

Good luck man.
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Andrewu91 wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2024 8:41 pm You guys improved and should be a top 5 Eastern Conference team. Anything else is a disappointment imo.

Good luck man.
Thanks man, hope that works out this way :-)

Another meet in the playoffs would be cool.

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Flaming Homer wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2024 8:43 pm
Andrewu91 wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2024 8:41 pm You guys improved and should be a top 5 Eastern Conference team. Anything else is a disappointment imo.

Good luck man.
Thanks man, hope that works out this way :-)

Another meet in the playoffs would be cool.
I'm trying to stay out of your way. Bad matchup with the addition of Alvarado lol

Definitely top 4 team if you make the trade we discussed.
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Yea, marcus is just being a retard. While I do agree, I do not see the team as a true contender this year. It is possible, if everything breaks their way. But they have a lot of fhe pieces needed to become one.

I think next year is the Hawks year. They have an elite scoring wing who should top 20 ppg. A very good complimentary piece in Okoro who hopefully can duplicate his playoff success from this past season. Alvarado is a defensive stud who i can not understand why Gary dealt him away. And we haven't even mentioned Perry yet.

On top of all of that they will have 25m in cap to play with until one of their rfa's resign. So to suggest that they are bound for "league purgatory," continues to prove that Marcus is stuck playing checkers while the rest of us are playing chess.
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OneNole wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2024 10:13 pm Yea, marcus is just being a retard.
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Hawks are a tough young team scrapping to overthrow Miami for the division crown.

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OneNole wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2024 10:13 pm Yea, marcus is just being a retard. While I do agree, I do not see the team as a true contender this year. It is possible, if everything breaks their way. But they have a lot of fhe pieces needed to become one.
So if that makes me a retard, you must be even more of a dumbass to be agreeing with one.
OneNole wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2024 10:13 pm So to suggest that they are bound for "league purgatory," continues to prove that Marcus is stuck playing checkers while the rest of us are playing chess.
I'd probably beat you at chess considering your best asset is the vitriol you spew out for me. Your vocabulary and the manner in which you conducts your discussions at speaks volumes about your intelligence levels. Stay mad buddy.
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TheTwoWallaces wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2024 10:27 pm
OneNole wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2024 10:13 pm Yea, marcus is just being a retard.
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A super talented team which is now more balance than the previous seasons. I really like the addition of Alvarado, he could be the final piece of the puzzle.
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Absolutely love that trio and how the team is coming together. If anything, it just needs some time for Murray to develop and the other pieces to be placed around them but this team was in the thick of it last season up until a certain point so wouldn't surprise me if they are right there again and even improved.

One thing could be that post setup. I really like Perry but he's not the big scorer and Golomon picks up that slack but when he goes down, that missing post scoring could hurt.
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Probably our closest rival out of our division, this team is already set long term and the question now is can it contend this season? I think it can, and Naji Marshall is a big reason I went out looking for more perimeter defense. He's only 23, and getting better. I really enjoy our matchups, and hope we can continue to keep up with the Hawks.

In terms of roster construction, the return of Goloman makes this a very deep team on the frontline. If Alvarado/Okoro can play the kind of defense they are capable of there isn't a team in the East that can overlook them.
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Alvarado is going to an important pickup. Probably needs a little more seasoning this year, but definitely one of the exciting teams to watch in their trajectory (which doesn't look like purgatory).

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Great team building here. Alvarado was a fantastic addition. I like Okoro a lot and White fits really well, among others. A tough rival here in the East.
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mgtr81 wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 11:30 am Great team building here. Alvarado was a fantastic addition. I like Okoro a lot and White fits really well, among others. A tough rival here in the East.
We struggle a bit to give players their new roles, but Okoro is one of the reasons we are hanging in there so far. He and Metu are the most consistent by far. Let's hope the rest of the gang finds their game too soon.

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